RBR2
Apr 12, 02:15 PM
The Thunderbolt Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)) has a diagram showing the TB controller's access to things. The accompanying description ("Thunderbolt can be implemented on graphics cards, which have access to DisplayPort data and PCI express connectivity, or on the motherboard of new devices, such as the MacBook Pro.[5][17][22]") implies that a TB compatible PCIe graphics card could bring older systems up-to-date. That would be interesting.
Joe The Dragon
Apr 11, 09:05 PM
I wonder how Thunderbolt will interact with the graphics card.
I expect that the video signals (DisplayPort) go from the graphics card back through the PCI bus to the TB chip and then out through the TB ports to the monitor. So when you upgrade the graphics card, it works (thinking of computers with replaceable PCI cards here, e.g. a Mac Pro with TB). But this will likely require the support of the graphics card manufacturers, so we have cards that are "compatible" with TB...?
Presumably one can still use the graphics cards' own video-out ports too.
Guess we'll see.
well TB seems to be add on to DP port. So VIDEO may work with a added in card and a voodoo 1 like loop back cable. But you don't TB tied to on board video and what about AMD / sever / upper mid - high end intel boards / other boards that don't have chipset / cpu based video. Some sever boards have on board pci based video.
I expect that the video signals (DisplayPort) go from the graphics card back through the PCI bus to the TB chip and then out through the TB ports to the monitor. So when you upgrade the graphics card, it works (thinking of computers with replaceable PCI cards here, e.g. a Mac Pro with TB). But this will likely require the support of the graphics card manufacturers, so we have cards that are "compatible" with TB...?
Presumably one can still use the graphics cards' own video-out ports too.
Guess we'll see.
well TB seems to be add on to DP port. So VIDEO may work with a added in card and a voodoo 1 like loop back cable. But you don't TB tied to on board video and what about AMD / sever / upper mid - high end intel boards / other boards that don't have chipset / cpu based video. Some sever boards have on board pci based video.
zync
Jul 31, 12:11 PM
Mmm .. no. The reason you don't see it much is because XP SP2 is pretty rock solid as far as operating systems go.
If a machine reboots when you're typing an email, then folk would still register this as a crash.
He was talking about seeing blue screens. So it doesn't matter how many people would register it as a crash....they still wouldn't see a blue screen. That was the point he was trying to make.
Also, just as a side note...it took them three years to create the version you're talking about. I'm not stating this for argument�it's only here as additional info.
If a machine reboots when you're typing an email, then folk would still register this as a crash.
He was talking about seeing blue screens. So it doesn't matter how many people would register it as a crash....they still wouldn't see a blue screen. That was the point he was trying to make.
Also, just as a side note...it took them three years to create the version you're talking about. I'm not stating this for argument�it's only here as additional info.
iSamurai
Apr 22, 09:38 AM
That's just another reason to upgrade from the iPhone 4 in 2012 :)
Peace
Sep 14, 11:59 AM
I'll get there! I'm just now becoming a Starbucks nerd.
:confused: I dunno. Says so online but maybe they are just gimmicking! Or maybe you have the hookup! :p
Oh well, I'll get a gold card one of these days.
Wait till you get that platinum card !
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/3530897226_34f89221c5.jpg
:confused: I dunno. Says so online but maybe they are just gimmicking! Or maybe you have the hookup! :p
Oh well, I'll get a gold card one of these days.
Wait till you get that platinum card !
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/3530897226_34f89221c5.jpg
DewGuy1999
Sep 14, 07:53 AM
Disagree about the LP album being even close to good, but I stated that before:rolleyes:
CD's? That's still just about all I purchase, beside my vinyl collection:D I want a physical copy for everything, and I like to have the artwork, AND get it signed by the artist when I see them live. I also get the ticket and place it behind the CD holder in the case. With my Genelec 1030A's I can tell if it's an MP3 or not:p Now where did the sweet spot between my speakers go again:rolleyes:
And on top of all that, it's your property to do with as you please...forever.:)
CD's? That's still just about all I purchase, beside my vinyl collection:D I want a physical copy for everything, and I like to have the artwork, AND get it signed by the artist when I see them live. I also get the ticket and place it behind the CD holder in the case. With my Genelec 1030A's I can tell if it's an MP3 or not:p Now where did the sweet spot between my speakers go again:rolleyes:
And on top of all that, it's your property to do with as you please...forever.:)
twoodcc
Dec 2, 06:52 PM
i'm already over it, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter too much. if i were to be credited all the stuff over the years i should have been im sure id have 100s of thousands more points :(
yeah i'm over it as well
yeah i'm over it as well
Macula
Oct 24, 08:50 AM
...make sure there is no whine!
I would personally give it a week or two to make sure that revisions are not necessary.
I would personally give it a week or two to make sure that revisions are not necessary.
Tones2
Apr 26, 03:18 PM
Now I undertand that building this sort of infrastructure costs money and thus it is logical to assume that they would want to recoup some if not all of that investment. However, why would I want to stream music to my phone when I already have music on my phone?
I agree. It would make much more sense for VIDEO.
Tony
I agree. It would make much more sense for VIDEO.
Tony
mattcube64
Jan 30, 06:09 PM
DUDE! Was that online or in store? I will go buy one today if they have them at my store. Been wanting a tv as well. Do you like it? Is 40" good for gaming and hooking a laptop up to?
My local Walmart supercenter (1 of 3 here in Columbia, MO) was "spring cleaning" for lack of a better word, their TV selection. Almost all of last year's models were discounted by ~20% or so.
However, I can't help but think this TV was a mis-mark, as it rang up at $478 and had to get a manager's approval (both times).
Certainly worth looking, though.
40" is a great size, imo. Because, it *can* be used just about anywhere in the home, for any particular use. Sure, I'd love bigger; but since I don't even know where I'll be living in six months (I'm about to graduate college), it just doesn't make sense to go bigger.
For ~$300, it's damn nice, and much better than the Insignia and Dynex 32" TVs you typically buy at that price. It lacks a lot of inputs (has just one of each type), and it's only 60hz (even though that doesn't really bother me at all). But I really like it so far... sound is good, picture is great, blacks are deep and rich, and the backlight is nice and even.
My local Walmart supercenter (1 of 3 here in Columbia, MO) was "spring cleaning" for lack of a better word, their TV selection. Almost all of last year's models were discounted by ~20% or so.
However, I can't help but think this TV was a mis-mark, as it rang up at $478 and had to get a manager's approval (both times).
Certainly worth looking, though.
40" is a great size, imo. Because, it *can* be used just about anywhere in the home, for any particular use. Sure, I'd love bigger; but since I don't even know where I'll be living in six months (I'm about to graduate college), it just doesn't make sense to go bigger.
For ~$300, it's damn nice, and much better than the Insignia and Dynex 32" TVs you typically buy at that price. It lacks a lot of inputs (has just one of each type), and it's only 60hz (even though that doesn't really bother me at all). But I really like it so far... sound is good, picture is great, blacks are deep and rich, and the backlight is nice and even.
techweenie
Apr 13, 04:24 PM
What? Apple moving into TV?
Quick, go back to Fall, 2001 and dredge up all the "Apple will fail in the music player sector" posts!
Quick, go back to Fall, 2001 and dredge up all the "Apple will fail in the music player sector" posts!
gaswerks
Apr 4, 10:32 PM
beer sausage ...
theBB
Jul 21, 02:56 PM
Let's face it: Apple is a monopoly, but with such a small market share, it is a monopoly that we have freely chosen to deal with. We Mac consumers cannot go to the DOJ and claim we have no alternatives (just because your alternatives suck doesn't mean you don't have them.) If Apple were wildly successful and exceeded this threshold market share, their business model may be interfered with by the government.
First, being a monopoly is not a crime. Using your dominant market power to eliminate competitors in your or other fields could be a crime. It is called "Anti-Trust Act", not "Anti-Monopoly Act."
Yes, Apple is the only supplier if you want to run OSX, but OSX is not a "market." It is one of many operating systems out there. That's like saying Ford is a monopoly, because Ford does not let you buy a Ford from another manufacturer.
First, being a monopoly is not a crime. Using your dominant market power to eliminate competitors in your or other fields could be a crime. It is called "Anti-Trust Act", not "Anti-Monopoly Act."
Yes, Apple is the only supplier if you want to run OSX, but OSX is not a "market." It is one of many operating systems out there. That's like saying Ford is a monopoly, because Ford does not let you buy a Ford from another manufacturer.
arn
Apr 28, 06:50 PM
Better comparison picture
http://www.tipb.com/2011/04/28/white-iphone-4-roughly-02mm-thicker-black-iphone/
As mentioned, difference is 0.2mm.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/28/195018-white_iPhone_depth-036.jpg
http://www.tipb.com/2011/04/28/white-iphone-4-roughly-02mm-thicker-black-iphone/
As mentioned, difference is 0.2mm.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/28/195018-white_iPhone_depth-036.jpg
el-John-o
Mar 31, 11:56 AM
I kinda like it I guess, after all that has always been the Apple way, they coined the term "Desktop" with Lisa because they were trying to emulate the stuff you had on your desk (When demonstrating Lisa Write they described creating a new document as "tearing off a clean sheet of paper"), BUT like others, I like having my neat, clean PC interface for my calender, hopefully there will be a "classic" mode.
-John
-John
dombi
Jul 21, 10:14 AM
This is definitely a good thing. Apple has great products and with the Intel processor Macs they offer something that others cannot. Mac/Windows on the same machine without too much headache.
I have talked to people around me and everyone seems excited about this. Many said before that they would never switch to a Mac because it cannot run Windows, well that changed. So people are starting to realize all the possibilities that they have if do do buy an Apple product.
I bought a MacBook Pro a while ago and I absolutely love it. Every time I run the 'hostinfo' command I get a little suprised to see the "Intel 80486" part in the output, because we have been staying away from Intel chips for so long. But it does feel and act like a Mac, and even I bought Parallels just o be able to run Windows next to my OS X. It works really well and is fast!
I hope that this growth will continue. This will be good for the users and for Apple as well.
I have talked to people around me and everyone seems excited about this. Many said before that they would never switch to a Mac because it cannot run Windows, well that changed. So people are starting to realize all the possibilities that they have if do do buy an Apple product.
I bought a MacBook Pro a while ago and I absolutely love it. Every time I run the 'hostinfo' command I get a little suprised to see the "Intel 80486" part in the output, because we have been staying away from Intel chips for so long. But it does feel and act like a Mac, and even I bought Parallels just o be able to run Windows next to my OS X. It works really well and is fast!
I hope that this growth will continue. This will be good for the users and for Apple as well.
AppleScruff1
Apr 14, 01:23 AM
You won't be able to watch anything but paid content from Apple. But it will be magical. And it least it will be big enough so you can't hold it wrong.
milbournosphere
Apr 28, 05:09 PM
This is one of those threads that enforces the Apple fanboi stereotype. It's 1mm. That's it. Steve Jobs is not out to kill your children anymore than he is to fleece you on your white iPhone purchase, and the typical person won't even notice anyway. Can we all move along now?
Moyank24
Apr 28, 12:48 PM
this is hard to dispute... :)
although in fairness, a sandwich maker was/will be an important character of this adventure
edit: at this point you should consider a temporary change of avatar
The best I can do on short notice...
although in fairness, a sandwich maker was/will be an important character of this adventure
edit: at this point you should consider a temporary change of avatar
The best I can do on short notice...
TennisandMusic
Apr 28, 11:04 AM
I'm honestly surprised by a lot of you. The whole "no single android phone outsells the iPhone!" argument, is foolish and weak. It's a platform war. You basically get ONE CHOICE with the iPhone. Now it's a great choice, but of course it's going to be a top seller as a result. There are so many good Android choices out there that a single model isn't going to dwarf the others. Since there are, you know, options? As a platform it seems iOS is getting whooped on. Does that not register, or are people that much in denial?
Now myself, I like my iPhone, but come on...in this case we are talking about platforms...So weird...
Now myself, I like my iPhone, but come on...in this case we are talking about platforms...So weird...
Brien
Mar 11, 02:26 PM
Brea Mall update:
Two employees came by about 10 minutes ago. They were counting the line, I am #204. line is at ~250-300, and they cannot guarantee stock for anyone just now getting here. For those who do come, I'm wearing a vintage Apple Mission Impossible shirt and am across from red robin.
Two employees came by about 10 minutes ago. They were counting the line, I am #204. line is at ~250-300, and they cannot guarantee stock for anyone just now getting here. For those who do come, I'm wearing a vintage Apple Mission Impossible shirt and am across from red robin.
Dubthedankest
Mar 15, 09:35 AM
Be sure to let us know if any of those stores have product. Out of all the stores I've seen that have opened early today, none have had product. Which, of course, begs the question 'why in the hell are you opening early then?'
crees!
Jul 24, 10:11 PM
seems interesting. i don't know if i would use it that much, but this could be a good thing. Sounds like someone didn't take the time to read the post. If you wouldn't use it much you're implying you wouldn't use the iPod... period.
Yvan256
Jul 28, 08:59 AM
I agree. I like MS strategy. They want to get their foot in the door and compete, then sell you all kinds of other ish. Look at the XBOX/XBOX 360, they may sell them at a loss, but with the Software, XBOX Live, and the Marketplace, they are making their money.
Wrong. The Xbox division still hasn't made a cent of profit. That's with the Xbox/Xbox 360 and everything related to it.
That's not entirely true. The Xbox 360 doesn't play HD-DVDs, but it does upscale standard dvds to 720p. http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-256882.html
Better link:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360/physics.htm
So what? That doesn't make it an HD-DVD player. And if you think the Xbox 360 is the only piece of hardware that can upscale standard DVDs to 720p, think again.
The only thing helping the Xbox 360 right now is the fact that it's the only next-gen console on the market right now.
Never too late.
Isn't that what people said when Apple released the iPod - its too late... Now look.
Well, when Apple released the iPod, MP3 players were still a niche market with mostly tech-oriented buyers. Just like Microsoft grabbed the market in the early days of personnal computing and has the biggest share today, maybe Microsoft will have to be happy with a 10-15% MP3 player marketshare in 5-10 years.
MP3 player = iPod, just like personnal computer = PC = Windows these days.
Wrong. The Xbox division still hasn't made a cent of profit. That's with the Xbox/Xbox 360 and everything related to it.
That's not entirely true. The Xbox 360 doesn't play HD-DVDs, but it does upscale standard dvds to 720p. http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-256882.html
Better link:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360/physics.htm
So what? That doesn't make it an HD-DVD player. And if you think the Xbox 360 is the only piece of hardware that can upscale standard DVDs to 720p, think again.
The only thing helping the Xbox 360 right now is the fact that it's the only next-gen console on the market right now.
Never too late.
Isn't that what people said when Apple released the iPod - its too late... Now look.
Well, when Apple released the iPod, MP3 players were still a niche market with mostly tech-oriented buyers. Just like Microsoft grabbed the market in the early days of personnal computing and has the biggest share today, maybe Microsoft will have to be happy with a 10-15% MP3 player marketshare in 5-10 years.
MP3 player = iPod, just like personnal computer = PC = Windows these days.
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