Snowy_River
Jul 26, 06:08 PM
Just touching it is not tactile feedback. That would be like saying a piece of paper provides feedback if you touch it. Feedback means a signal is sent back to the user to acknowledge the the pressing of the control. The 3G iPod buttons gave an audio click - that is aural feedback. They also showed things on the screen - that is visual feedback. But they didn't spring, or have a physical barrier that you push through, so there was no tactile feedback (i.e. nothing that can be physically felt) to let you know that you pressed the button.
tactile |?taktl; ?tak?t?l|
adjective
� of or connected with the sense of touch
� perceptible by touch or apparently so; tangible
� designed to be perceived by touch
Tactile means that you touch it! If you touch something you get a tactile feedback from it, unless your finger is numb. Thus, if you're waving you hand over control, you get no tactile feedback. Whereas, even if the control doesn't push in, the simple act of touching a control does give tactile feedback. (Perhaps less tactile feedback than a control that does push in, but it still gives tactile feedback.)
When you press a button on a dead iPod, it does nothing, and it feels exactly the same as pressing a button on a working iPod - no tactile feedback.
Irrelevant. If you push a key on the keyboard of a dead computer it behaves the same as pressing the key on the keyboard of a working computer. So, by your logic, these keys that press down give no tactile feedback.
Who said it was revolutionary? And it could consitute a none-touch interface. It depends on if the patent is describing the control or the entire iPod. If there is a cover, you are not touching the control (the screen underneath), but the cover over it - hence none-touch.
My point was not to say that your suggestion was not possible, just that it was a small step above what already exists, as opposed to a revolutionary leap forward based on the description in the patent. Of course, for anyone who knows a little bit about patent writing and patent law, what's written in the patent is probably the broadest possible applications that Apple can think of to include in their patent.
A better (i.e. more scratch-proof) cover would be better. Who cares about fingerprints? You can clean those off. I don't want to hover my finger over something to control it - I'd always have to be careful not to touch the screen (unless it was durable). Not very good when on a bus, train etc., where the vehicle is shaking.
And if a better material were easily available, don't you think they'd be using it? :rolleyes:
tactile |?taktl; ?tak?t?l|
adjective
� of or connected with the sense of touch
� perceptible by touch or apparently so; tangible
� designed to be perceived by touch
Tactile means that you touch it! If you touch something you get a tactile feedback from it, unless your finger is numb. Thus, if you're waving you hand over control, you get no tactile feedback. Whereas, even if the control doesn't push in, the simple act of touching a control does give tactile feedback. (Perhaps less tactile feedback than a control that does push in, but it still gives tactile feedback.)
When you press a button on a dead iPod, it does nothing, and it feels exactly the same as pressing a button on a working iPod - no tactile feedback.
Irrelevant. If you push a key on the keyboard of a dead computer it behaves the same as pressing the key on the keyboard of a working computer. So, by your logic, these keys that press down give no tactile feedback.
Who said it was revolutionary? And it could consitute a none-touch interface. It depends on if the patent is describing the control or the entire iPod. If there is a cover, you are not touching the control (the screen underneath), but the cover over it - hence none-touch.
My point was not to say that your suggestion was not possible, just that it was a small step above what already exists, as opposed to a revolutionary leap forward based on the description in the patent. Of course, for anyone who knows a little bit about patent writing and patent law, what's written in the patent is probably the broadest possible applications that Apple can think of to include in their patent.
A better (i.e. more scratch-proof) cover would be better. Who cares about fingerprints? You can clean those off. I don't want to hover my finger over something to control it - I'd always have to be careful not to touch the screen (unless it was durable). Not very good when on a bus, train etc., where the vehicle is shaking.
And if a better material were easily available, don't you think they'd be using it? :rolleyes:
RedTomato
Oct 24, 07:46 AM
Very Very Tempted.
Time to put my repaired and working perfectly G4 PB 15'' on sale I think.
Any takers? (London, UK)
Time to put my repaired and working perfectly G4 PB 15'' on sale I think.
Any takers? (London, UK)
Cue
Oct 24, 07:57 AM
Basically what the MBP 15'' ought to be right from the start, right?
1Gb of Ram, DL, FW800. Apart from the Core 2 Duo ofcourse.
1Gb of Ram, DL, FW800. Apart from the Core 2 Duo ofcourse.
Ugg
May 1, 11:33 PM
I'm glad you get to decide what facts are facts. I guess someone has to do it.
It's true he's big. A big figurehead.
So was this guy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/CheHigh.jpg
It's true he's big. A big figurehead.
So was this guy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/CheHigh.jpg
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peapody
Jan 26, 02:08 AM
Post Your Last Purchase XV...WOWEEE! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1053646) at 57 pages and 2265 posts later, it was time.
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I was waiting for it to hit 100 pages on my end before starting a new thread. :( Oh well.
Celebrated the completion of a 4 hour residency interview at UCSF with dinner at Wayfare Tavern where my cousin works.
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I was waiting for it to hit 100 pages on my end before starting a new thread. :( Oh well.
Celebrated the completion of a 4 hour residency interview at UCSF with dinner at Wayfare Tavern where my cousin works.
GilGrissom
Jul 25, 05:35 AM
Arrrh I've been waiting for one of these for ages! I gave up and got a standard Apple Wireless Mouse a few months back! Arrgh!
I hope they have improved some of the small glitches people have with them, making it generally a nicer product, as I know some people totally hate its guts!
Different colour variations might be interesting, but the laser technology seems a step in the right direction at least, showing they have at least put a bit of thought into it and not just made the standard one with a bluetooth transceiver and batteries.
Heres to hoping its a top notch product!
I'm gonna guess it's gonna be very much a premium mouse on price too!
I hope they have improved some of the small glitches people have with them, making it generally a nicer product, as I know some people totally hate its guts!
Different colour variations might be interesting, but the laser technology seems a step in the right direction at least, showing they have at least put a bit of thought into it and not just made the standard one with a bluetooth transceiver and batteries.
Heres to hoping its a top notch product!
I'm gonna guess it's gonna be very much a premium mouse on price too!
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philshilla
May 4, 07:53 AM
A sales rep reply is now how low the credibility standards have fallen?
While you are collecting more hard data like this, I'll be prepping my Black card for the purchase of a pair of new iPhone 5s in June.
While you are collecting more hard data like this, I'll be prepping my Black card for the purchase of a pair of new iPhone 5s in June.
Chundles
Aug 15, 02:28 PM
Hmmm, why would an update of Front Row be deemed top secret...
Could this suggest that the mythical iHome might be coming soon?
Well, I don't know about the name considering iHome are a successful company that make a range of iPod-enabled clock radios but it certainly sounds like a good product.
Could this suggest that the mythical iHome might be coming soon?
Well, I don't know about the name considering iHome are a successful company that make a range of iPod-enabled clock radios but it certainly sounds like a good product.
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dXTC
Feb 16, 07:16 AM
Did anyone catch the Chuck Lorre Productions "vanity card" at the very end of this week's episode? I usually don't pay attention to the show, but I do watch Mike & Molly right afterward. I briefly saw Charlie Sheen's name on it, and had my wife rewind and pause it on the DVR.
In it, Chuck Lorre did a little joke at the whole situation, something along the lines of "I don't drink or smoke, I eat right, I exercise....", and at the very end, "If Charlie Sheen outlives me, I'm going to be really pissed."
Quite possibly the first time I ROFL'd at that show.
In it, Chuck Lorre did a little joke at the whole situation, something along the lines of "I don't drink or smoke, I eat right, I exercise....", and at the very end, "If Charlie Sheen outlives me, I'm going to be really pissed."
Quite possibly the first time I ROFL'd at that show.
Corey Grandy
Sep 13, 10:07 PM
Where can you purchase it?
www.threadless.com
;)
:D
www.threadless.com
;)
:D
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fel10
Nov 8, 10:23 AM
Here are a few things I would like for Christimas!
iLife 11
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/ilife11.jpg
$50 iTunes Gift Card
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/147833.jpg
Final Fantasy 13 Soundtrack
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/ffxiii_le.jpg
iLife 11
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/ilife11.jpg
$50 iTunes Gift Card
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/147833.jpg
Final Fantasy 13 Soundtrack
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/ffxiii_le.jpg
dscuber9000
May 1, 11:13 PM
Twitter is the best news organization.
I first heard the news while randomly checking Facebook. And then the ESPN iPhone app alerted me. :p
And then the CNN app did last. :D
I first heard the news while randomly checking Facebook. And then the ESPN iPhone app alerted me. :p
And then the CNN app did last. :D
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bilbo--baggins
Jul 24, 04:35 PM
Bah, these things are rubbish. The scroll wheel clogs up with dirt, just as scroll ball mice did in days gone by - except there is no user access to clean it thoroughly. Apple need to re-think the design on this one before updating it.
Why fix this problem now? Surely they will make more money if they bring out a bluetooth version with all the flaws of the wired version, and then next year bring out the new improved version with a solid state scroll pad, independent side buttons, ability to press the middle button while holding down the left button (ie. to drag an object between applications, with my old M$ mouse I would click and hold on a picture, press the scroll wheel to change applications, then drop the picture into iTunes - can't be done with the Mighty mouses single click mechanism).
Why fix this problem now? Surely they will make more money if they bring out a bluetooth version with all the flaws of the wired version, and then next year bring out the new improved version with a solid state scroll pad, independent side buttons, ability to press the middle button while holding down the left button (ie. to drag an object between applications, with my old M$ mouse I would click and hold on a picture, press the scroll wheel to change applications, then drop the picture into iTunes - can't be done with the Mighty mouses single click mechanism).
chrmjenkins
Apr 28, 12:19 PM
Ouch, Appleguy. I believe you may have made our wolfish friend angry. Now we avenge you.
eldiablojoe
Still night. The death was because of a kamikaze attack.
eldiablojoe
Still night. The death was because of a kamikaze attack.
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nies
Apr 27, 08:54 PM
Ok appleguy :p
AppleScruff1
Apr 13, 08:00 PM
Why no pink one for the girls?
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lofight
Jan 28, 11:21 AM
i think it's also because the R&D growth is bigger than the actual growth of the products the R&D is working on..
skeep5
Nov 10, 04:44 PM
son of a
MacRumors
Jul 10, 09:48 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)
Alongside the introduction of 'Charts' (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060709121223.shtml), ThinkSecret is reporting (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0607pages3.html) that Apple will be introducing a number of new features into the next version of Pages.
Pages is Apple's word processing application which comes bundled in iWork (http://guides.macrumors.com/iWork). Pages 3 is expected to debut in January 2007 with the release of iWork '07. New features include two new modes called "Word Processing" and "Layout" to better cater to different users needs.
Alongside the introduction of 'Charts' (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060709121223.shtml), ThinkSecret is reporting (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0607pages3.html) that Apple will be introducing a number of new features into the next version of Pages.
Pages is Apple's word processing application which comes bundled in iWork (http://guides.macrumors.com/iWork). Pages 3 is expected to debut in January 2007 with the release of iWork '07. New features include two new modes called "Word Processing" and "Layout" to better cater to different users needs.
snap58
Jul 25, 07:32 PM
sounds interesting, though i have a feeling many people will just ignore the feature and end up touching the screen anyway, lol.
I am not going to read all 110 replies, so this may have already been put out there.
Remember the other patent with the LCD with the built in little photo cells, think these would know when something was above them?
The screen will have a clear scratch proof cover over it that you could touch if you wanted too.
I can't see people Not touching the screen, just hovering mm above it, no way.
I am not going to read all 110 replies, so this may have already been put out there.
Remember the other patent with the LCD with the built in little photo cells, think these would know when something was above them?
The screen will have a clear scratch proof cover over it that you could touch if you wanted too.
I can't see people Not touching the screen, just hovering mm above it, no way.
Mystikal
Mar 17, 12:29 AM
Any idea where the best place for a black 16 wifi would be? I think that's all I really need, no 3g and i'll only have apps, maybe a movie here or there when traveling, no? Brea is the closest to me but it sounds like a battlefield, i'd prefer a Best Buy since I have giftcards but my recent time spent there makes me feel like i'd rather spend the money in gift cards to not have to go there again.
Or just do what I did. Buy one of whatever they have, and trade for the 16 WiFi and cash.
Or just do what I did. Buy one of whatever they have, and trade for the 16 WiFi and cash.
-aggie-
Apr 29, 03:55 PM
Hahahaha, great attempt -aggie-! Now I'm sure you're a WW!! I've suspected alllll along, and now you pull this faux Seer out of the same hat you pull your bunnies from. -aggie-.
You might have pulled the (werewolf) wool over the eyes of the others, but you are NOT fooling me! YOU are the werewolf, I'm simply your red herring.
What a sad post.
You might have pulled the (werewolf) wool over the eyes of the others, but you are NOT fooling me! YOU are the werewolf, I'm simply your red herring.
What a sad post.
playaj82
Jul 26, 02:02 PM
Have you see the "gestures" video? It would be done by physically touching the iPod. No camera needed.
Do you have a link? I have not seen them.
Do you have a link? I have not seen them.
mingoglia
Apr 28, 06:42 PM
This is ridiculous. Obama needs to get on the phone with Steve and set up a meeting to see what can be done with this. The iPhone is a national treasure and to see it's design go backwards is going to cause a loss of jobs and a further increase in gas prices. Completely unacceptable.
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