
dethmaShine
Apr 16, 06:58 AM
First, OS X is very much like the last versions of NeXTSTEP was, aside from Quartz/Appkit frameworks and GUI layer. Foundation is basically what was shipping in the 90s, the kernel/BSD userland, etc...
Apple has done a lot of work on it, and I've said so in my posts several times. I'm not diminishing their work in anyway.
Yeah, OS X is pretty much the same. There's nothing that apple has put in it. Most of the frameworks are derived from NeXTSTEP. Happy now?
Again, I'm simply stating that pissing over Google because they "acquired" and used "open source" is quick disingenuous in the face of Apple having done the same for both their flagship OSes.
No one is pissing over google's work. It was a response to one of your s*****[censored] comments, here:
By that same vein, what has Apple ever developed that's anything close to a OS ? And no, Mac OS X, a bunch of components bought/taken from the open source community doesn't count... it's just a Unix distribution with a GUI layer on top.
You replied to a person who was talking about ChromeOS being just a giant browser which is absolutely true.
You sound like one of those people on engadget who are always claiming that Apple has just been copying/modifying stuff and selling it as their own.
How do you know ? You saw Android in 2005 ? You can seriously compare what Andy's company made back then to what is actually shipping now ? The evolution from Android 1.0 to 2.3/3.0 is quite astounding by itself, who knows what went on between 2005 and version 1.0 that shipped in late 2009.
That's not what I meant. I meant that Google buys a lot of companies and makes a lot of acquisitions and sell their product as Google's. There's nothing bad in that. But there's nothing false about it as well. Developing/Not developing Android was never my point.
Why even attempt to diminish the work ? Apple does the same acquisition, they use open source projects to quicken development. The histories are similar, the goals are similar. Why hate Google over it, and why do you think it doesn't also reflect on Apple when you do ?
OK, which company doesn't? Apple does it too. But they are not buying other people's products and just selling them outright. You know you're dreaming when you claim that Mac OS X has very less to do with apple and much to do with every other thing they 'copied'.
I will leave the rest of your post out and just report it to the mods instead. I suggest editing your post to remove your clear lack of respect. If you want to discuss the merits of each at the fine detail, I don't think this is the thread for it. Again, let's drop the Google hate and talk OS X instead.
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Are you the one who's talking about lack of respect? Just look at your post history. You call people fools; you tell them they don't know anything.
Nevermind, please report. Thanks.
Very well said, just like you insert pro-google comments in every other thread.
Apple has done a lot of work on it, and I've said so in my posts several times. I'm not diminishing their work in anyway.
Yeah, OS X is pretty much the same. There's nothing that apple has put in it. Most of the frameworks are derived from NeXTSTEP. Happy now?
Again, I'm simply stating that pissing over Google because they "acquired" and used "open source" is quick disingenuous in the face of Apple having done the same for both their flagship OSes.
No one is pissing over google's work. It was a response to one of your s*****[censored] comments, here:
By that same vein, what has Apple ever developed that's anything close to a OS ? And no, Mac OS X, a bunch of components bought/taken from the open source community doesn't count... it's just a Unix distribution with a GUI layer on top.
You replied to a person who was talking about ChromeOS being just a giant browser which is absolutely true.
You sound like one of those people on engadget who are always claiming that Apple has just been copying/modifying stuff and selling it as their own.
How do you know ? You saw Android in 2005 ? You can seriously compare what Andy's company made back then to what is actually shipping now ? The evolution from Android 1.0 to 2.3/3.0 is quite astounding by itself, who knows what went on between 2005 and version 1.0 that shipped in late 2009.
That's not what I meant. I meant that Google buys a lot of companies and makes a lot of acquisitions and sell their product as Google's. There's nothing bad in that. But there's nothing false about it as well. Developing/Not developing Android was never my point.
Why even attempt to diminish the work ? Apple does the same acquisition, they use open source projects to quicken development. The histories are similar, the goals are similar. Why hate Google over it, and why do you think it doesn't also reflect on Apple when you do ?
OK, which company doesn't? Apple does it too. But they are not buying other people's products and just selling them outright. You know you're dreaming when you claim that Mac OS X has very less to do with apple and much to do with every other thing they 'copied'.
I will leave the rest of your post out and just report it to the mods instead. I suggest editing your post to remove your clear lack of respect. If you want to discuss the merits of each at the fine detail, I don't think this is the thread for it. Again, let's drop the Google hate and talk OS X instead.
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Are you the one who's talking about lack of respect? Just look at your post history. You call people fools; you tell them they don't know anything.
Nevermind, please report. Thanks.
Very well said, just like you insert pro-google comments in every other thread.

Popeye206
Apr 13, 09:21 PM
It could be a bad mod job, I doubt some random AT&T employee got a hold of an actual White iPhone 4.
Agreed... if it's not announced, it's not in the wild. Probably one of those conversion jobs... someone was selling a white conversion kit for $200.
Agreed... if it's not announced, it's not in the wild. Probably one of those conversion jobs... someone was selling a white conversion kit for $200.

iphone3gs16gb
Apr 26, 11:21 PM
Almost as funny as your daughters face when she discovers that her dad is a brutal bigot who waits outside toilet doors to beat people up (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
Woah there big boy, calm down.
He is a father who has a daughter, put yourself in his shoes...
Also when did he explicitly state he "waits outside toilet doors to beat people up"?
Woah there big boy, calm down.
He is a father who has a daughter, put yourself in his shoes...
Also when did he explicitly state he "waits outside toilet doors to beat people up"?

samcolak
Apr 22, 12:05 PM
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Lastly - yes you are correct re POSIX - my bad.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Lastly - yes you are correct re POSIX - my bad.

Marx55
Nov 4, 02:55 AM
I can say that when Parallels has its VM Flags set to VM Cache as the primary caching logic, its disk speed is near native, but OS X apps slow down dramatically. Change that to Mac OS X primary caching logic and the VM's disk access slows down noticeably, but not horribly.
How to do such changes? Thanks.
How to do such changes? Thanks.

blackstarliner
Oct 24, 08:50 AM
Heres a pic if anyone has missed it.
Check out the footnote to the Swiss site (where the text is correct)
Die Tests wurden von Apple im Mai 2006 mit Prototypen des 2 GHz MacBook und aktuellen 1,42 GHz PowerPC G4 basierten iBook G4 Computern durchgef�hrt.
Check out the footnote to the Swiss site (where the text is correct)
Die Tests wurden von Apple im Mai 2006 mit Prototypen des 2 GHz MacBook und aktuellen 1,42 GHz PowerPC G4 basierten iBook G4 Computern durchgef�hrt.

backdraft
Jul 25, 03:10 PM
I'm not too sure I agree with the reason you give though. My main concern is quality control. Even with the paltry share increase Apple has seen during the past year, quality control has become an issue. Would not like to see how much poorer with a 10% share thats all :rolleyes:
Well Apple is using Intel parts now that explains the lower quality. They're taking their parts from the same bin now; quality suffers... :mad:
Well Apple is using Intel parts now that explains the lower quality. They're taking their parts from the same bin now; quality suffers... :mad:

Apple OC
May 1, 11:01 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Al-Qaeda-Global-Network/dp/0425191141
Why don't you do some thought provoking reading when your done with your anti-intellectual knee jerk reaction?
you seem defensive about something ... please explain his bit role in Al-Queda some more for me :rolleyes:
Ayman al-Zawahiri is known as the #2 guy in Al-Queda
Why don't you do some thought provoking reading when your done with your anti-intellectual knee jerk reaction?
you seem defensive about something ... please explain his bit role in Al-Queda some more for me :rolleyes:
Ayman al-Zawahiri is known as the #2 guy in Al-Queda

Mac Marc
Apr 25, 12:29 PM
In the past, Apple has offered a discount on an impending OS release if you buy a new Mac (but wait for the announcement or ask at the Apple Store).
Do you guys think there will there be another refresh with Lion pre-loaded this summer?
Do you guys think there will there be another refresh with Lion pre-loaded this summer?

DTphonehome
Jul 24, 03:49 PM
It's about time. But I've had a wireless mouse/keyboard set when I got my iMac G5 Rev. A back in the day, and I quickly got rid of it. I was sick and tired of changing the damn batteries every few weeks. I never mouse or type away from my desk, so I had no use for it, and I'd rather have the ugly wires than deal with the annoyance of buying/changing batteries often. Now, if they were rechargeable (in a dock, I don't want to have to take them out and put them in a seperate charger), I could see using them.

Chriseybear
Apr 22, 04:18 PM
I hope it's not drastically thinner and lighter. The 4 at the minute is just right, nice to hold feels right.
Maybe It's just my man handling sausage fingers but I wouldn't like to see it similar to the iPod touch.
Maybe It's just my man handling sausage fingers but I wouldn't like to see it similar to the iPod touch.

SevenInchScrew
Sep 15, 10:37 AM
How is the statue of the noble team that comes with the legendary edition? Is it cheap looking or actually worth it?
It is really nice, and very worth it. It is plastic, but is very sturdy and looks great. They are all hand-painted, and very detailed. The real gem of the set, though, is Dr. Halsey's journal that comes with the Limited and Legendary versions. That thing is CRAZY awesome, and is filled with so much stuff, it boggles the mind. If you are into the lore and back story of the Halo universe, Bungie made this for you, and they didn't hold back.
Click to huge-size
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zjcopg.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/34pkz8g.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2gxqjq1.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/218uo4.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2z4adlc.jpg
It is really nice, and very worth it. It is plastic, but is very sturdy and looks great. They are all hand-painted, and very detailed. The real gem of the set, though, is Dr. Halsey's journal that comes with the Limited and Legendary versions. That thing is CRAZY awesome, and is filled with so much stuff, it boggles the mind. If you are into the lore and back story of the Halo universe, Bungie made this for you, and they didn't hold back.
Click to huge-size
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zjcopg.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/34pkz8g.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2gxqjq1.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/218uo4.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2z4adlc.jpg

LarryC
Apr 25, 02:04 PM
The shipping time still says within 24 hours on the U.S. Apple Store?

xbuddycorex
May 4, 01:50 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)
I bet the AT&T rep got his information from MacRumors.
I bet the AT&T rep got his information from MacRumors.

gandalf55
Jul 25, 09:29 AM
Do any of the physical Apple stores have these yet? I'm in Boston and would like to pick one up :)
Btrthnezr3
Jan 29, 01:52 PM
Ordered this last week...it arrived and I installed it today.
Super easy upgrade and cheap! 2x2gb...so my total iMac Ram is now 8gb.
http://eshop.macsales.com/imgs/ndesc/memory/PC10600/OWC1333DDR3S04S.jpg
Super easy upgrade and cheap! 2x2gb...so my total iMac Ram is now 8gb.
http://eshop.macsales.com/imgs/ndesc/memory/PC10600/OWC1333DDR3S04S.jpg

macrumormonger
Apr 12, 04:38 PM
What lens?
Zeiss 35mm Distagon 2/35
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5602412004_1e0bf5303e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602412004/in/photostream)
Camera Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure 0.002 sec (1/640)
Aperture f/7.1
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
Zeiss 35mm Distagon 2/35
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5602412004_1e0bf5303e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602412004/in/photostream)
Camera Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure 0.002 sec (1/640)
Aperture f/7.1
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100

ball4lyfe
Apr 29, 02:15 AM
If it is true, it gives me enough excuse to not shell out $$$ to switch from the black to the white. :D

sth
May 3, 08:03 AM
How can it be TFT and IPS?!! That makes no sense quite honestly... Pish Posh...
TN/IPS/VA/... are different subcategories of TFT panels, which are in turn a subcategory of LCD displays.
TN/IPS/VA/... are different subcategories of TFT panels, which are in turn a subcategory of LCD displays.
42streetsdown
Apr 29, 12:51 AM
i'd be more willing to accept this if the photos weren't blurry. don't people know how to focus a camera?
rmwebs
Nov 10, 04:11 PM
This is all well and good but what happens when the cash dries up? The servers go down, leaving you with an expensive Safari.
Anything that you pay for one-time that is reliant on a 3rd party funding its operation is bad news :/
Anything that you pay for one-time that is reliant on a 3rd party funding its operation is bad news :/
chrmjenkins
May 1, 09:15 PM
If ucfgrad isn't the wolf, I figure jav must be. I was undecided between the two, so not.voting was essentially the same as voting.
hayesk
Mar 29, 08:11 PM
So the reason apple charges more is because??? Seems like google is a better deal.
1. Professional conferences cost that much.
2. Apple sends 1000 of their engineers that you can talk with. Who is Google sending? How accessible are they?
3. WWDC is more days.
Number 2 above is one of the reasons that it would be difficult to move to a larger venue. It might accommodate more people, but the real value is getting to talk with Apple engineers and ask questions. If they made the venue larger, your chances of getting to talk with them becomes slim. It's a tough problem to solve.
1. Professional conferences cost that much.
2. Apple sends 1000 of their engineers that you can talk with. Who is Google sending? How accessible are they?
3. WWDC is more days.
Number 2 above is one of the reasons that it would be difficult to move to a larger venue. It might accommodate more people, but the real value is getting to talk with Apple engineers and ask questions. If they made the venue larger, your chances of getting to talk with them becomes slim. It's a tough problem to solve.
Raptura
Apr 22, 04:24 PM
I would be really disappointed to see a metal backing like iPod Touch has. My previous iPods from the past are so jacked up on the backside with scratches and dents. I know I'm not alone with this.
I'd prefer if the iPhone retained a glass backing like on the iPhone 4; I think it's just so sexy. But if they were going to move to metal I'd prefer an iPad-style backing.
I'd prefer if the iPhone retained a glass backing like on the iPhone 4; I think it's just so sexy. But if they were going to move to metal I'd prefer an iPad-style backing.

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