heisetax
Jul 10, 10:34 AM
Lets hope it doesnt end up costing as much as MS Office....:eek:
At $79 a year it will probably be 5 years before the program moves to a commonly useful level where it may have the ability to replace MS Office. The very casual Word Processor user will not have to wait very long, maybe Pages 3 or Pages 4. With the 5 X $79 = $395 we move into the price range of the non-educational price of MS Office. But for the heavy Office user, 5 years may not be long enough.
Apple would used to calculate the Real Total Cost of Ownership for Macs. They would include after purchase service & support costs. We need to do the same for iWork. iWork is not a simple $79 program useless you wait for the version you want, purchase it & then add no updates that have a purchase price. If you want a slimmed down program purchase now, but have few features to give few benefits. If you want a more complete program just wait for the 5th or 6th upgrade. But this way you have no program to use for another 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years. Anything else requires multiplying the $79 by by a 2, 4, 5 or even larger number to get the true cost of iWork.
Bill the TaxMan
At $79 a year it will probably be 5 years before the program moves to a commonly useful level where it may have the ability to replace MS Office. The very casual Word Processor user will not have to wait very long, maybe Pages 3 or Pages 4. With the 5 X $79 = $395 we move into the price range of the non-educational price of MS Office. But for the heavy Office user, 5 years may not be long enough.
Apple would used to calculate the Real Total Cost of Ownership for Macs. They would include after purchase service & support costs. We need to do the same for iWork. iWork is not a simple $79 program useless you wait for the version you want, purchase it & then add no updates that have a purchase price. If you want a slimmed down program purchase now, but have few features to give few benefits. If you want a more complete program just wait for the 5th or 6th upgrade. But this way you have no program to use for another 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 years. Anything else requires multiplying the $79 by by a 2, 4, 5 or even larger number to get the true cost of iWork.
Bill the TaxMan
coachingguy
Mar 31, 02:47 PM
When I got my iPad, the first app I fell in love with was the Cal. I remember saying to multiple people that I hope this makes its way in the Apple Os... This is a huge improvement!
Coachingguy
Coachingguy
ITGuy
Apr 23, 07:05 PM
I can see the iPhone 4 coming out on T-Mobile in short order, probably once the white iPhone 4 is available. This way Verizon and T-Mobile will eventually be able to offer it as the lower cost iPhone in conjunction with iPhone 5. Right now only AT&T can exclusively offer the $49 iPhone 3GS alongside the iPhone 4. No carrier will have that exclusive low cost advantage with iPhone 5.
I think Apple launched iPhone 4 on Verizon while in the final phase of bringing it to T-Mobile.
I think Apple launched iPhone 4 on Verizon while in the final phase of bringing it to T-Mobile.
djkirsten
Nov 3, 10:47 AM
i have parallels and it works great for me except the whole video thing. i work a lot with video and so that is of course why i got a mac pro :D , but as a freelancer not everything is in final cut so i thought i'd install avid in parallels. well it doesn't think i have a video card and thus wont let me do anything :mad: so if vmware can do that then sign me up.
i also like the whole drag and drop idea, i dont know exactly if parallels can do that, i know you can share a folder, but i picture draging a file from my left monitor(s) to my full screen pc on my right monitor's desktop and it just popping up. that'd be neat but not enough for the switch from parallels.
this is good though because it'll make parallels step it up even more and we'll get some more features quicker.
i also like the whole drag and drop idea, i dont know exactly if parallels can do that, i know you can share a folder, but i picture draging a file from my left monitor(s) to my full screen pc on my right monitor's desktop and it just popping up. that'd be neat but not enough for the switch from parallels.
this is good though because it'll make parallels step it up even more and we'll get some more features quicker.
FoxMcCloud
Apr 11, 03:24 PM
Sadly the ThunderBolt name ain't unique.
Intel really should have tried harder
http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=29696
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-rampage-iii-black-edition-review/7
Intel really should have tried harder
http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=29696
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-rampage-iii-black-edition-review/7
mjteix
Apr 27, 12:37 AM
While "great deal faster" is fuzzy language open to interpretation, IMO I don't consider 10 Gbps TBolt to be a "great deal faster" than 6 Gbps SATA. TBolt can't handle two SATA connections at full bandwidth - that's not a "great deal faster" in my opinion.
When it was called "Light Peak", the technology had a lot of promise. Now that it's been downgraded to daisy-chained copper - it's only a little bit better than USB 3.0. Except that we can buy USB 3.0 devices, it's still "in the future" for TBolt devices.
You always seem to forget that Tbolt is a dual bidirectional 10Gb/s channel technology, so in fact it can handle 4 SATA connections, 2 upstream and 2 downstream. With room to spare. On a single port.
But besides the raw speed of TBolt, it's the variety of devices that will be available: high-end storage, audio and video, docking equipment, etc., and the fact that PCIe-class devices will finally be available for computers without PCIe slots. It's perfectly sound for a company like Apple with 90% of their computers without PCIe slots, to pioneer that kind of technology.
Copper or optical wouldn't have change a thing except the max. length of the connection (up to 100m instead of 3m). And FWIW, the only devices you can buy today in USB3 are marginally faster (than FW800) single storage units, and there are already single solid-state drives that are faster than USB3 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-3-sata-iii-2-5-ssd.html). A couple of video devices that are already obsolete due to some TBolt announcements, and not a single audio interface. No need to trash TBolt because it can't handle $50,000+ devices (RAID Arrays of SSD on 16x PCIe cards) that only a handful of people worldwide will ever buy. As for the "low-end" ioDrive duo, prices range from $9,000 to $12,000 (320/640GB).
Somehow I'm glad Tbolt is not fast enough to handle those devices, I also need a new car.
When it was called "Light Peak", the technology had a lot of promise. Now that it's been downgraded to daisy-chained copper - it's only a little bit better than USB 3.0. Except that we can buy USB 3.0 devices, it's still "in the future" for TBolt devices.
You always seem to forget that Tbolt is a dual bidirectional 10Gb/s channel technology, so in fact it can handle 4 SATA connections, 2 upstream and 2 downstream. With room to spare. On a single port.
But besides the raw speed of TBolt, it's the variety of devices that will be available: high-end storage, audio and video, docking equipment, etc., and the fact that PCIe-class devices will finally be available for computers without PCIe slots. It's perfectly sound for a company like Apple with 90% of their computers without PCIe slots, to pioneer that kind of technology.
Copper or optical wouldn't have change a thing except the max. length of the connection (up to 100m instead of 3m). And FWIW, the only devices you can buy today in USB3 are marginally faster (than FW800) single storage units, and there are already single solid-state drives that are faster than USB3 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-3-sata-iii-2-5-ssd.html). A couple of video devices that are already obsolete due to some TBolt announcements, and not a single audio interface. No need to trash TBolt because it can't handle $50,000+ devices (RAID Arrays of SSD on 16x PCIe cards) that only a handful of people worldwide will ever buy. As for the "low-end" ioDrive duo, prices range from $9,000 to $12,000 (320/640GB).
Somehow I'm glad Tbolt is not fast enough to handle those devices, I also need a new car.
creator2456
Jan 29, 08:15 AM
Saw 127 Hours then went to Texas Roadhouse for the girlfriends birthday. I'm still squirming from the 'scene' and stuffed from the food.
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/127-Hours-Review.jpg
http://www.coupondad.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Texas_Roadhouse_Logo.gif
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/127-Hours-Review.jpg
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Oct 18, 04:42 PM
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maclaptop
Apr 21, 11:05 PM
1) Have you not seen the comparison between the Samsung phone and the iPhone?
2) We even have sales people telling customers the Samsung phone is "like an iPhone"..
1) I own both.
They are rectangular and have icons on home screens.
There's only so much one can do with smart phone styling.
It's not like Apples on the verge of going out of business.
Much ado over nothing.
Like a teenage bully, Apples beyond stupid.
2) You actually believe clueless sales people?
2) We even have sales people telling customers the Samsung phone is "like an iPhone"..
1) I own both.
They are rectangular and have icons on home screens.
There's only so much one can do with smart phone styling.
It's not like Apples on the verge of going out of business.
Much ado over nothing.
Like a teenage bully, Apples beyond stupid.
2) You actually believe clueless sales people?
kiwi-in-uk
Jul 12, 05:57 PM
Too bad you don't have a professional app such as the latest MS Word!:eek:
Then you could just open the new brochure wizard.
Hey life-o-fart!
When last did you use MS Word for Mac?
Then you could just open the new brochure wizard.
Hey life-o-fart!
When last did you use MS Word for Mac?
godknows
Apr 25, 11:42 AM
iMac with thunderbolt! (but I want macbook / macbook pro with hi-res screen more)
No. It will just start shipping with Lion.
Btw, do Apple usually give free updates to customers who bought the computer a time period (say 2 months) before new OS release?
No. It will just start shipping with Lion.
Btw, do Apple usually give free updates to customers who bought the computer a time period (say 2 months) before new OS release?
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Apr 8, 11:46 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5600042921_6d023986a6_z.jpg (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5265/5600042921_6d023986a6_b.jpg)
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Click for large.
Not digital.
Click for large.
kiwi-in-uk
Jul 12, 05:57 PM
Too bad you don't have a professional app such as the latest MS Word!:eek:
Then you could just open the new brochure wizard.
Hey life-o-fart!
When last did you use MS Word for Mac?
Then you could just open the new brochure wizard.
Hey life-o-fart!
When last did you use MS Word for Mac?
FloatingBones
Nov 20, 08:58 PM
Whom am I trying to convince?
It doesn't matter. You're not convincing anybody. Calling a CEO a communist because their product doesn't do what you think it ought to do is pretty goofy.
Illogical and irrational people who worship Steve Jobs and hate what he hates? Such people will not care or listen to any form of reason.
You're not listening. I gave four very good -- and rational -- reasons why Flash is a bad idea for iOS. You haven't countered that reasoning. You give us things like a "communist" rant that has no business in this kind of discussion. You are the one acting in an irrational fashion here.
No, I talk about an option to turn Flash on or off at will and you find it offensive to even offer an option.
If Apple did that, then they would be staking the security of iOS Safari to Adobe. And Adobe has proven to be thoroughly incompetent in securing their products. Security experts believe that Adobe is going to surpass Microsoft as the #1 target for security attacks. (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-231.htm): "The expectation is, among the security community, that Adobe this year, in is going to surpass Microsoft as the number one target for attacks due to the continuing problems."
Adobe still thinks that quarterly updates is good enough for their software. Clueless. As security expert Steve Gibson notes: So how is that quarterly update going for you? (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-237.txt)
Everything you fear would be avoided if someone just turned Flash OFF
Please explain how you can possibly ensure that not a single iOS user will not lose anything the next time there's a zero day Adobe bug (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-237.txt). You can't.
No, I just don't see any point in trying to carry on a logical, rational discussion with someone whose "argument" is based purely on emotion.
See above. My arguments are rational. OTOH, you are the one who labeled Steve Jobs as a "communist dictator" in message #45 of this discussion.
That argument is purely based on emotion, it is purely nonsensical, and it is entirely wrong.
You owe the community an apology for your "communist" rant. It has no business in any rational discussion here.
Many millions of people have Flash installed on their Macs (let alone those using Windows and Linux) and they could remove it. They know that if they do, some web sites will cease to function properly and thus they leave it on.
This is not a problem for the owners of the 120M+ iOS devices. Nobody forced them to buy an Apple iOS product. Many of them are quite happy that they never have to deal with Flash at all. If there's something they need to do, they can look in the App Store for an app to do that.
Note: despite asking you multiple times, you have yet to tell us of a SINGLE FLASH APP that doesn't have a reasonable alternative in the app store.
Millions of users on Macs AND Windows AND Linux also don't give a rat's ass about a single Flash app. They have installed click-to-flash blockers on their computers to muzzle flash.
Apple doesn't even ship Flash on their newest computers (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1034486&highlight=macbook+air+adobe). It's a safe bet that Apple won't ship Flash at all with 10.7 version of the OS.
Even Adobe has seen the handwriting on the wal (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1039999&highlight=adobe+html5)l. They are now offering code that generates HTML5 instead -- for those hundreds of millions of computers that don't offer Flash. Websites will probably cut over to that completely, because they can never tell who has muzzled their Flash apps with click-to-flash on laptops and desktop computers.
Other than a small number of legacy programmers, nobody cares about flash any more.
Those flash hangers-on have been resorting to bizarre emotional arguments -- they claim that Steve Jobs is a communist dictator (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=11453056&postcount=45). That is a truly bankrupt argument -- the last gasp from those defending a dying platform.
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It doesn't matter. You're not convincing anybody. Calling a CEO a communist because their product doesn't do what you think it ought to do is pretty goofy.
Illogical and irrational people who worship Steve Jobs and hate what he hates? Such people will not care or listen to any form of reason.
You're not listening. I gave four very good -- and rational -- reasons why Flash is a bad idea for iOS. You haven't countered that reasoning. You give us things like a "communist" rant that has no business in this kind of discussion. You are the one acting in an irrational fashion here.
No, I talk about an option to turn Flash on or off at will and you find it offensive to even offer an option.
If Apple did that, then they would be staking the security of iOS Safari to Adobe. And Adobe has proven to be thoroughly incompetent in securing their products. Security experts believe that Adobe is going to surpass Microsoft as the #1 target for security attacks. (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-231.htm): "The expectation is, among the security community, that Adobe this year, in is going to surpass Microsoft as the number one target for attacks due to the continuing problems."
Adobe still thinks that quarterly updates is good enough for their software. Clueless. As security expert Steve Gibson notes: So how is that quarterly update going for you? (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-237.txt)
Everything you fear would be avoided if someone just turned Flash OFF
Please explain how you can possibly ensure that not a single iOS user will not lose anything the next time there's a zero day Adobe bug (http://www.grc.com/sn/sn-237.txt). You can't.
No, I just don't see any point in trying to carry on a logical, rational discussion with someone whose "argument" is based purely on emotion.
See above. My arguments are rational. OTOH, you are the one who labeled Steve Jobs as a "communist dictator" in message #45 of this discussion.
That argument is purely based on emotion, it is purely nonsensical, and it is entirely wrong.
You owe the community an apology for your "communist" rant. It has no business in any rational discussion here.
Many millions of people have Flash installed on their Macs (let alone those using Windows and Linux) and they could remove it. They know that if they do, some web sites will cease to function properly and thus they leave it on.
This is not a problem for the owners of the 120M+ iOS devices. Nobody forced them to buy an Apple iOS product. Many of them are quite happy that they never have to deal with Flash at all. If there's something they need to do, they can look in the App Store for an app to do that.
Note: despite asking you multiple times, you have yet to tell us of a SINGLE FLASH APP that doesn't have a reasonable alternative in the app store.
Millions of users on Macs AND Windows AND Linux also don't give a rat's ass about a single Flash app. They have installed click-to-flash blockers on their computers to muzzle flash.
Apple doesn't even ship Flash on their newest computers (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1034486&highlight=macbook+air+adobe). It's a safe bet that Apple won't ship Flash at all with 10.7 version of the OS.
Even Adobe has seen the handwriting on the wal (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1039999&highlight=adobe+html5)l. They are now offering code that generates HTML5 instead -- for those hundreds of millions of computers that don't offer Flash. Websites will probably cut over to that completely, because they can never tell who has muzzled their Flash apps with click-to-flash on laptops and desktop computers.
Other than a small number of legacy programmers, nobody cares about flash any more.
Those flash hangers-on have been resorting to bizarre emotional arguments -- they claim that Steve Jobs is a communist dictator (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=11453056&postcount=45). That is a truly bankrupt argument -- the last gasp from those defending a dying platform.
buckers
Apr 22, 04:59 PM
Have to admit, I think that mock-up looks really ugly. Just my opinion.
Eraserhead
Jul 25, 09:48 AM
And you're really going to use all that are you? With the exception of RAM and hard disks, most computer consumers never expand their computers.
Few even upgrade their HD's, i think apple users upgrade the RAM but that's only because Apple have *never* sold a computer (at least since the original iMac) with enough RAM.
One interesting think I have realised from going back to a PC laptop (i'm borrowing it and waiting for new MBP's/MB's) is how annoying many of the applications are, for example WinSCP, when you move a file across it brings up a dialog to confirm where you want to copy it to, even though the odds are 99.99% that you want to move it from the visible directory on the left to the visible directory on the right. An OS X application (eg Fugu or Cyberduck in this case) would never do that. Basically even if Vista is superior to Leopard in ease of use and features (which ain't gonna happen :p) because OS X app's are in general designed better I'd probably keep using a Mac, this is an excellent reason to switch too.
Few even upgrade their HD's, i think apple users upgrade the RAM but that's only because Apple have *never* sold a computer (at least since the original iMac) with enough RAM.
One interesting think I have realised from going back to a PC laptop (i'm borrowing it and waiting for new MBP's/MB's) is how annoying many of the applications are, for example WinSCP, when you move a file across it brings up a dialog to confirm where you want to copy it to, even though the odds are 99.99% that you want to move it from the visible directory on the left to the visible directory on the right. An OS X application (eg Fugu or Cyberduck in this case) would never do that. Basically even if Vista is superior to Leopard in ease of use and features (which ain't gonna happen :p) because OS X app's are in general designed better I'd probably keep using a Mac, this is an excellent reason to switch too.
Digital Skunk
May 3, 08:05 AM
Finally, a quad core desktop class machine (in processors only I suppose) with ample I/O and a decent . . . . for Apple . . . . price.
Shocked that Apple would give us TWO TBolt ports on the 27" with quad core across the line.
The $1700 has my cheap side tingling but my professional side is telling me to wait for a Mac Pro update so I can at least consider a machine I can expand myself.
On the plus side, that 21.5" is not a bad machine for the price.
Shocked that Apple would give us TWO TBolt ports on the 27" with quad core across the line.
The $1700 has my cheap side tingling but my professional side is telling me to wait for a Mac Pro update so I can at least consider a machine I can expand myself.
On the plus side, that 21.5" is not a bad machine for the price.
MacQuest
Oct 18, 06:34 PM
As always, the iPod is Apple's real cash cow.
Too bad for those of us who wish they would divert a little more of their attention to their computer line..
Yeah. Gawd knows Apple hasn't done a thing with it's Mac line-up this year. :rolleyes:
Wow, amazing how emotional people always get whenever I make a statement that could sound slightly anti-iPod... I know you love your iPod and all (I am very fond of mine myself), but over the last few years Apple has been focusing a dispropotional amount of energy into their cute little gadget which has massively boosted their profits. For those of us that don't salivate over all things iPod, I think this is too bad.
That is all.
Do you even understand yourself?
You're first comment was more anti-Mac than anti-iPod.
Count the amount of things Apple has done to it's Mac line-up this year compared to it's iPod line-up, and then come back and tell us that Apple hasn't focused on it's computers this year WAY more than the iPod line-up.
Think before you post.
Es todo.
Too bad for those of us who wish they would divert a little more of their attention to their computer line..
Yeah. Gawd knows Apple hasn't done a thing with it's Mac line-up this year. :rolleyes:
Wow, amazing how emotional people always get whenever I make a statement that could sound slightly anti-iPod... I know you love your iPod and all (I am very fond of mine myself), but over the last few years Apple has been focusing a dispropotional amount of energy into their cute little gadget which has massively boosted their profits. For those of us that don't salivate over all things iPod, I think this is too bad.
That is all.
Do you even understand yourself?
You're first comment was more anti-Mac than anti-iPod.
Count the amount of things Apple has done to it's Mac line-up this year compared to it's iPod line-up, and then come back and tell us that Apple hasn't focused on it's computers this year WAY more than the iPod line-up.
Think before you post.
Es todo.
awmazz
Mar 8, 10:17 AM
LOL!
In all seriousness...it'd be a hoot if they hired Emilio Estevez. Can you imagine the intra-family squabble that might set up?? :D
He already appeared in the show. Played an old friend of Charlie's who drops dead, prompting Charlie to rethink his own lifestyle. Perhaps that storyline was drawn from real life.
In all seriousness...it'd be a hoot if they hired Emilio Estevez. Can you imagine the intra-family squabble that might set up?? :D
He already appeared in the show. Played an old friend of Charlie's who drops dead, prompting Charlie to rethink his own lifestyle. Perhaps that storyline was drawn from real life.
BreadMaster
Sep 12, 09:25 PM
http://www.corndogcomputers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/imacslbyjosh.png
2009 i5 Refurb, gets here Tuesday!
Also http://blogs.pitch.com/fatcity/sunkist.solar.fusion.jpg
It wasn't bad!
2009 i5 Refurb, gets here Tuesday!
Also http://blogs.pitch.com/fatcity/sunkist.solar.fusion.jpg
It wasn't bad!
NismoRoadster
Mar 17, 11:18 AM
I think so coast got about 15 too. Rent a cop told us loiterers to leave
Was the door already open or did u wait next to the Nordstroms area? I will probably try to go very early tomorrow and show up to work late.
Was the door already open or did u wait next to the Nordstroms area? I will probably try to go very early tomorrow and show up to work late.
TwoSocEmBoppers
Mar 15, 02:56 AM
I am going to head out to mine at around 8 AM when the mall opens and the apple store is opening 1 hour early so at 9 AM hopefully I can grab my 16GB 3G ATT.
Brea is opening early?!
Brea is opening early?!
Benjy91
Apr 22, 06:57 AM
I thought pretty much everyone had infringed on everyone else's patents?
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Jan 29, 10:52 PM
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Gorgeous bike! Be careful!
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