gkarris
May 1, 10:58 PM
So this obviously means a US Economic Recovery and we all get our old jobs and careers back...
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
cjcampbell
Jan 26, 09:53 PM
I always wondered where "huffy" came from. :p
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AAPL will recover, but perhaps not soon. The markets are in a state of confusion right now (I can imagine that this week was one roller coaster for day traders! :eek:), but Apple is a solid company with solid earnings, solid growth forecasts, and a solid roadmap for the near future.
I mean, it's not as if Apple is taking on suspect mortgages...:p
Huffy, of course, is manufactured in China by the Russell Corporation. :)
It is true, if your Apple stock has declined, selling is probably the worst thing you can do. If you thought it was worth $169, then it is definitely worth $130 to you. Nothing has really changed since it dropped from its high.
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AAPL will recover, but perhaps not soon. The markets are in a state of confusion right now (I can imagine that this week was one roller coaster for day traders! :eek:), but Apple is a solid company with solid earnings, solid growth forecasts, and a solid roadmap for the near future.
I mean, it's not as if Apple is taking on suspect mortgages...:p
Huffy, of course, is manufactured in China by the Russell Corporation. :)
It is true, if your Apple stock has declined, selling is probably the worst thing you can do. If you thought it was worth $169, then it is definitely worth $130 to you. Nothing has really changed since it dropped from its high.
ciTiger
Apr 28, 04:07 PM
And when you thought it was safe to buy a white iPhone 4... No rest for the white lovers... lol
IJ Reilly
Jan 26, 04:43 PM
So, where is AAPL going from here? Hard to say... I'm currently "long" on AAPL, so obviously I'd like to see it go up. However, it's quite possible that it could go lower from here -- perhaps much lower (below $100 even). One of the most common valuation statistic for stocks is the price/earnings (P/E) ratio. Right now, AAPL's P/E is around 30. Compared to competitors like Hewlett-Packard (HPQ; p/e: 16) and Microsoft (MSFT; p/e: 21), AAPL's multiple is high. Over the last few years, AAPL's higher P/E has been justified because earnings have been growing much faster than the earnings of its competitors. And if earnings continue to grow robustly this year, the current high P/E will have been justified. However, if earnings stall, you could see the stock price fall rapidly.
You can't tell much about where a company is going by looking at P/E, as by definition, this is a backwards-looking statistic. All of the companies you mention are growing far more slowly than Apple, which is why their trailing P/E ratios are lower. This is sort of what you said, but it's worth clarifying that you can't necessarily compare P/E ratios between companies with vastly different growth rates.
You can't tell much about where a company is going by looking at P/E, as by definition, this is a backwards-looking statistic. All of the companies you mention are growing far more slowly than Apple, which is why their trailing P/E ratios are lower. This is sort of what you said, but it's worth clarifying that you can't necessarily compare P/E ratios between companies with vastly different growth rates.
Eldiablojoe
Apr 29, 04:03 PM
What a sad post.
Nice deflection. You've been on the offensive out of the gate in this game. I don't know what your h*rd-on is for me this game, but apparently I appear a good victim in your eyes. You've played these games a long time, and are a very good player, you know exactly how to tweak things to your advantage and this unusual hardball manner you're playing this game is telling.
Game play aside, I hope you're okay- in the offline world.
Nice deflection. You've been on the offensive out of the gate in this game. I don't know what your h*rd-on is for me this game, but apparently I appear a good victim in your eyes. You've played these games a long time, and are a very good player, you know exactly how to tweak things to your advantage and this unusual hardball manner you're playing this game is telling.
Game play aside, I hope you're okay- in the offline world.
R.Perez
Apr 26, 08:37 PM
transphobia That's a new one. It's almost as funny as the visual I got with a dude at the urinal with D cups.
You are clearly trolling. No more responses needed here.
You are clearly trolling. No more responses needed here.
hulugu
Dec 2, 01:59 AM
Hi, you all!
This iAdware thing is old news and has been already fixed in latest security update by Apple.
Greetings from Finland,
Toni
...
The iAdware is just one of the vulns discovered this month, the Month of Kernal Bugs found several problems in the kernel space of OSX. A few of these have been fixed, but others remain, Apple however responded quite quickly to the iAdware problem.
This iAdware thing is old news and has been already fixed in latest security update by Apple.
Greetings from Finland,
Toni
...
The iAdware is just one of the vulns discovered this month, the Month of Kernal Bugs found several problems in the kernel space of OSX. A few of these have been fixed, but others remain, Apple however responded quite quickly to the iAdware problem.
firewood
Apr 23, 01:32 PM
Nope. I see every issue from the consumer perspective - as I should (being a consumer). Any other perspective would be an abomination (unless for those who hold tons of AAPL shares).
One only need to hold a few Apple shares for the value of those shares (or just the increase since the iPhone was introduced) to easily out-weigh the purchase price of most Apple products. Even a tiny percentage in some diversified fund in your or your parents 401K or IRA might add up to that.
As a consumer of a product for which I have additional expenses (for apps), I am concerned with the long term prospects of the company, so that that product will have long term support and a healthy upgrade path. Witness what happened to PalmPilots when the company couldn't keep up (all those PalmOS apps I purchased are now worthless).
One only need to hold a few Apple shares for the value of those shares (or just the increase since the iPhone was introduced) to easily out-weigh the purchase price of most Apple products. Even a tiny percentage in some diversified fund in your or your parents 401K or IRA might add up to that.
As a consumer of a product for which I have additional expenses (for apps), I am concerned with the long term prospects of the company, so that that product will have long term support and a healthy upgrade path. Witness what happened to PalmPilots when the company couldn't keep up (all those PalmOS apps I purchased are now worthless).
RodThePlod
Jul 21, 04:29 PM
http://www.comingzune.com/
One question, what is he doing to that rabbit? :eek:
What a strange clip!
Hehehehehe... when I was watching that I thought the rabbit was gonna spin around and eat the little guy!
Kinda like Microsoft were the big guy and Apple were the lil' guy...
Hmmmm.....
RodC
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www.expodition.com - for iPod users who love to travel
One question, what is he doing to that rabbit? :eek:
What a strange clip!
Hehehehehe... when I was watching that I thought the rabbit was gonna spin around and eat the little guy!
Kinda like Microsoft were the big guy and Apple were the lil' guy...
Hmmmm.....
RodC
--
www.expodition.com - for iPod users who love to travel
trainguy77
Oct 14, 11:37 PM
We moved up a rank today some how. :eek: As well the number of active users is increasing. I kind of think us talking about it here seems to be helping! I might just set my signature back to something about folding tomorrow at some point.
KnightWRX
Apr 22, 11:55 AM
By the way - openstep is an evolution of nextstep when next went "open source". it may of been put of the GNU license,
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
Lastly, the Minix kernel came from Posix. So the path Posix->Minix->Linux is valid.
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU see source link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/
BTW - No part of MacOSX is distributed under GNU licensing...
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
GNU evolved into a foundation
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
The GNU Project was launched in 1984 to develop the GNU operating system, a complete Unix-like operating system which is free software—software which respects your freedom.
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
What we do :
...
We drive development of the GNU operating system and maintain a list of high-priority free software projects to promote replacements for common proprietary applications.
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Stop it please, you're hurting me... OpenStep is a specification of which GNUStep is a GPL licensed implementation released by the GNU project. Foundation and Cocoa are the NeXTSTEP acquired implementations that Apple is using.
OpenSTEP is not licensed under a GNU project license at all...
Lastly, the Minix kernel came from Posix. So the path Posix->Minix->Linux is valid.
POSIX is not a kernel. It's a standard programming interface that UNIX systems used to make sure that one program written for a UNIX system would compile another as long as the standard was followed.
Minix, while being a POSIX compliant OS, was a complete implementation done by Andrew Tannenbaum for a book he was writing.
Your grasp of all of this history is quite muddied. Seriously, who are you trying to convince here ? You've gotten about every fact wrong about this whole thing. The plain fact remains, I was right all along, your correction was quite wrong when you said :
Bash is under the GPL license - not GNU. Never has been GNU see source link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/
BTW - No part of MacOSX is distributed under GNU licensing...
You completely misunderstood my post when I said Bash was part of the GNU project. Bash has always been GNU, always will be. The GPL is very much "GNU licensing".
Enjoy easter yourself and use the days off to work on your grasp of the whole UNIX and open source histories.
GNU evolved into a foundation
From GNU.org (http://www.gnu.org/) :
The GNU Project was launched in 1984 to develop the GNU operating system, a complete Unix-like operating system which is free software—software which respects your freedom.
Again, the Foundation is called the FSF, from their site, FSF.org (http://www.fsf.org/) :
What we do :
...
We drive development of the GNU operating system and maintain a list of high-priority free software projects to promote replacements for common proprietary applications.
Stop getting it wrong, we're on the Internet, the sites are there to correct you.
Eriden
Mar 16, 10:44 AM
How many wifi models did they have? Particularly 32GB. My friend got out of line, wondering if he would have gotten one.
IIRC, the manager said that they only had 16GB WiFi. But I had already tuned out at that point since I was there for AT&T, so I may have misheard.
IIRC, the manager said that they only had 16GB WiFi. But I had already tuned out at that point since I was there for AT&T, so I may have misheard.
CFreymarc
Apr 13, 10:36 PM
Big deal.
I swear Apple got more market share over the publicity about the delay than the actual delivery of the product. Remind me to delay a custom color of a new product so the press can bitch about it too. Well played in The Loop, well played!
I swear Apple got more market share over the publicity about the delay than the actual delivery of the product. Remind me to delay a custom color of a new product so the press can bitch about it too. Well played in The Loop, well played!
Eraserhead
Jul 25, 08:12 AM
(the new 5G are a bit wider and thinner than the 4G) making any devices that the iPod "fits into" need to be retooled.
My 5G iPod fits in my 3G dock just fine, the only problem is that it's thinner so it doesn't fit snugly. I think it will have a dock connector (for accessories) and a headphone socket and hld switch at least, though a splash power charger would be cool, i can just see your iPod falling off it, for a similar feature why not just include a dock to connect to your computer?
My 5G iPod fits in my 3G dock just fine, the only problem is that it's thinner so it doesn't fit snugly. I think it will have a dock connector (for accessories) and a headphone socket and hld switch at least, though a splash power charger would be cool, i can just see your iPod falling off it, for a similar feature why not just include a dock to connect to your computer?
cocky jeremy
Jan 27, 03:23 AM
Bought a 4 pack of the "Daylight" type of bulb...what a major difference in lighting, soft white sucks
Very, very true. I have some of these.. i love the color. Everything feels so much cleaner and brighter.
Purchase of the day: Broccoli to eat with ranch.. yum. :)
Very, very true. I have some of these.. i love the color. Everything feels so much cleaner and brighter.
Purchase of the day: Broccoli to eat with ranch.. yum. :)
-aggie-
Apr 27, 10:02 PM
For now, I'll switch. Nies
Looks like I need to switch to nies.
Deadline is 10:30 am EST.
Looks like I need to switch to nies.
Deadline is 10:30 am EST.
sparkomatic
Mar 11, 07:30 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
Almost there and they just announced that all the AT&T's are gone. Also the 16 and 32 white are gone. Uh oh!
Almost there and they just announced that all the AT&T's are gone. Also the 16 and 32 white are gone. Uh oh!
MacRumors
Apr 23, 06:12 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/23/apple-testing-iphone-for-t-mobile-usa/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/23/190723-Apple-iPhone-4-T-Mobile110423221541_300.jpg
Shweta Tiwari Bath in Open
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/23/190723-Apple-iPhone-4-T-Mobile110423221541_300.jpg
trainguy77
Nov 12, 12:16 AM
Yeah look at any teams overall stats. They all have a huge drop in production. The first place team shows it very well. But everyteam has this drop.
R.Perez
Apr 27, 06:54 PM
I, on the other hand, do have a daughter. And if I saw someone who was obviously transgendered (as opposed to 'obviously pedophile cross-dresser',) I would have no problem with them entering the ladies room at the same time as my daughter.
We don't have the complete story behind the video, just as we didn't have the complete story behind the Rodney King beating video up front; but on the face of it, this is a group of young women beating a transgendered person until she has a seizure. All the while, being egged on by the employees of the store.
Now, if the 'transgendered person' was really just a creepy crossdresser, someone who does not regularly self-identify as female, and exposed himself to the young women, then I would not have a problem with the young women defending themselves. But once it was out in the open part of the restaurant, with the 'offender' on the ground, that person is no longer a threat. And once they leave, any return to fight is purely wrong.
At best, the attackers had a legitimate complaint, and took it waaaaay too far. At worst, they committed felony assault as a hate crime.
Why are you equating "cross-dresser" and "pedophile"?
Also you do realize that gender roles and gender distinctions are purely socially constructed concepts that hold no real barring on reality.
Calling someone "creeeeepy" because they do not fit into your preconceived notion of gender is kind of ****ed up no?
We don't have the complete story behind the video, just as we didn't have the complete story behind the Rodney King beating video up front; but on the face of it, this is a group of young women beating a transgendered person until she has a seizure. All the while, being egged on by the employees of the store.
Now, if the 'transgendered person' was really just a creepy crossdresser, someone who does not regularly self-identify as female, and exposed himself to the young women, then I would not have a problem with the young women defending themselves. But once it was out in the open part of the restaurant, with the 'offender' on the ground, that person is no longer a threat. And once they leave, any return to fight is purely wrong.
At best, the attackers had a legitimate complaint, and took it waaaaay too far. At worst, they committed felony assault as a hate crime.
Why are you equating "cross-dresser" and "pedophile"?
Also you do realize that gender roles and gender distinctions are purely socially constructed concepts that hold no real barring on reality.
Calling someone "creeeeepy" because they do not fit into your preconceived notion of gender is kind of ****ed up no?
Legion93
May 1, 10:20 PM
Mission Accomplished now?
Yes, after 30 years of fighting he's finally dead. I say mission failed.
Yes, after 30 years of fighting he's finally dead. I say mission failed.
-aggie-
Apr 25, 08:21 PM
I am completely and utterly shocked by this vote.
/sarcasm
And forget about cheap sandwiches...you're paying double for lapdances!
After this post, I can’t even think straight.
/sarcasm
And forget about cheap sandwiches...you're paying double for lapdances!
After this post, I can’t even think straight.
Spagolli94
Jul 28, 08:16 AM
Apple has done something VERY important with the iPod. They made it cool, especially among teens thru college-aged kids. Whenever I'm in an Apple store, it's very obvious just how strongly Apple is going after this demographic and I think it's paying off. Once Zune comes out, would you want to be the one kid in school who has a dorky Microsoft MP3 player? Sure, it will probably have more features. Just like those calculator wristwatch things. They are loaded with features too. That doesn't mean that 99% of kids would be caught dead wearing one.
Too many features can be a bad thing. I remember guy back in college... He always had the latest and greatest gadgets. Cell phone and beeper on his belt, you know they type. ***** tool.
As long as the iPod keeps it's position as the "cool" MP3 player, they will be just fine.
Too many features can be a bad thing. I remember guy back in college... He always had the latest and greatest gadgets. Cell phone and beeper on his belt, you know they type. ***** tool.
As long as the iPod keeps it's position as the "cool" MP3 player, they will be just fine.
Randyrat
Apr 25, 08:20 PM
Getting my first Mac with this refresh! Saved enough several months ago, but kept an eye on the buyers guide on this forum. Hopefully my wait will have been worth it!
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