
Lixivial
Jul 24, 08:54 PM
Kinda takes away from that whole "Simplicity is everything" slogan Apple is known for, doesn't it? While I'll reserve my judgments on the design until it's worked into a final product, it does look like the user needs to take unnecessary steps to actually use the click wheel. Then again, pictures (drawings) probably can't do the interface justice.
Still, not everything has to be digital over analog...
Still, not everything has to be digital over analog...

AndroidfoLife
Apr 24, 03:29 PM
Which doesn't mean much because it doesn't factor in the iPod or iPad, which both run iOS. It's better to look at platform marketshare rather than just smartphone marketshare.
We where doing a simple survey on cellphone use on campus to answer the Research question "Do students use more smartphones now compared to last year."
We where doing a simple survey on cellphone use on campus to answer the Research question "Do students use more smartphones now compared to last year."

Popeye206
Apr 15, 02:24 PM
By that same vein, what has Apple ever developed that's anything close to a OS ? And no, Mac OS X, a bunch of components bought/taken from the open source community doesn't count... it's just a Unix distribution with a GUI layer on top. :rolleyes:
It's easy to discount anything going with that mentality. The fact is, Chrome OS is as much an undertaking as OS X was. It's more than just a "Web browser" since web browsers cannot be booted and don't provide graphical sub-systems, input management and process scheduling obviously.
(yes, I do realise Mac OS Classic existed).
And to answer your question directly : Android. ;)
Ahhh.... Google bought that. And given Android is based on open source, don't you think your argument on OSX is rather weak?
It's easy to discount anything going with that mentality. The fact is, Chrome OS is as much an undertaking as OS X was. It's more than just a "Web browser" since web browsers cannot be booted and don't provide graphical sub-systems, input management and process scheduling obviously.
(yes, I do realise Mac OS Classic existed).
And to answer your question directly : Android. ;)
Ahhh.... Google bought that. And given Android is based on open source, don't you think your argument on OSX is rather weak?

Don't panic
Apr 28, 12:56 PM
The best I can do on short notice...
that's pretty good.
let's hope in a short night (but not too short, as in abruptly ended ;))
the tricky part will be to find the infected (which probably is not infected yet)
that's pretty good.
let's hope in a short night (but not too short, as in abruptly ended ;))
the tricky part will be to find the infected (which probably is not infected yet)

povman
Jul 11, 06:12 PM
Heh... Knowing XBox, the device will probably be twice as big as the 1st gen ipods and require a separate (not bundled) control unit to access all functionality.

Blakjack
Apr 29, 02:56 PM
Amazon knows something that we dont

Snowy_River
Jul 12, 06:54 PM
I understand what you are saying but are you really going to call "Vi" a pro app for word processing and say that it fully replaces Word. You can use any app as a tool to create a professional product.
If Vi is being used by a professional to produce a professional product, then, yes, I'd call it a professional application. As far as being able to completely replace Word, well if the professional in question was able to stop using Word, then apparently it was able to completely replace Word for that professional.
Apple labels iWork as a "consumer level" app. not me.
Show me where Apple calls Pages a consumer app (http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/).
My definition of a "Pro level" app is one that has industry maturity, is excepted as standard industry wide, has many many features which allow it to be versatile and is useful in a variety of professional industries. It probably isn't the easiest app to use because it isn't focused to just one industry.
Your definition of a "professional" app seems mighty arbitrary, even to the extent of excluding most applications that exist. Specialized databases that are designed for a specific industry wouldn't meet your definition. Computer-Aided-Machining (CAM) software (which is only useful in one industry) wouldn't meet your definition. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
I would bet you that not .1% of printshops, publishers, lawyers, engineers, etc. even know what a .pages file is let alone are they working with it daily.
So now you're adding another level of definition to what it takes to be a "professional" app? Some percentage of people have to know about it? And where do you draw the line? Gee, I guess this means that any start-up company trying to produce a new professional application is doomed because how can they ever reach this percentage upon the release so their product can be considered "professional"? :rolleyes:
I come back to my point. I think the simplest definition of a "professional" app is an app that is being used by a professional to produce a professional product. Any other definition falls short of the mark, IMO.
If Vi is being used by a professional to produce a professional product, then, yes, I'd call it a professional application. As far as being able to completely replace Word, well if the professional in question was able to stop using Word, then apparently it was able to completely replace Word for that professional.
Apple labels iWork as a "consumer level" app. not me.
Show me where Apple calls Pages a consumer app (http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/).
My definition of a "Pro level" app is one that has industry maturity, is excepted as standard industry wide, has many many features which allow it to be versatile and is useful in a variety of professional industries. It probably isn't the easiest app to use because it isn't focused to just one industry.
Your definition of a "professional" app seems mighty arbitrary, even to the extent of excluding most applications that exist. Specialized databases that are designed for a specific industry wouldn't meet your definition. Computer-Aided-Machining (CAM) software (which is only useful in one industry) wouldn't meet your definition. I could go on, but I think you get my point.
I would bet you that not .1% of printshops, publishers, lawyers, engineers, etc. even know what a .pages file is let alone are they working with it daily.
So now you're adding another level of definition to what it takes to be a "professional" app? Some percentage of people have to know about it? And where do you draw the line? Gee, I guess this means that any start-up company trying to produce a new professional application is doomed because how can they ever reach this percentage upon the release so their product can be considered "professional"? :rolleyes:
I come back to my point. I think the simplest definition of a "professional" app is an app that is being used by a professional to produce a professional product. Any other definition falls short of the mark, IMO.

b_scott
Apr 15, 11:37 AM
Battery life is much better with this update. I stream Sirius radio all day and it lasts longer now. Haters gotta hate.
how would you know? it's only been out a couple hours.
how would you know? it's only been out a couple hours.

Bubba Satori
Apr 13, 04:37 PM
Top Ten Apple Branded TV features.
10. Requires iTunes $500 remote.
9. Costs twice as much and has half as many channels as other TVs.
8. Can't watch BD movies on it.
7. No pRon.
6. Requires 7 Apple adapters to access all features.
5. TV bezel constantly runs iAds.
4. Not able to display politically incorrect programming.
3. Al Gore circuit turns off TV after 200 watts are consumed.
2. Comes in only one size.
1. WOOOOO!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUh6LDz177k
10. Requires iTunes $500 remote.
9. Costs twice as much and has half as many channels as other TVs.
8. Can't watch BD movies on it.
7. No pRon.
6. Requires 7 Apple adapters to access all features.
5. TV bezel constantly runs iAds.
4. Not able to display politically incorrect programming.
3. Al Gore circuit turns off TV after 200 watts are consumed.
2. Comes in only one size.
1. WOOOOO!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUh6LDz177k

scu
Oct 18, 06:50 PM
Due to late intro of the mac Pro. I would bet that desktops will increase in sales for Q1
I would agree with you. One issue is that the older G5 are still very good machines. There is little incentive to upgrage given that there are still a number of applications that are not Intel native yet. The Mac Pro should see a bigger jump when Photoshop and Leopard are out in Spring.
I think Leopard alone will blow everyone away given the powerfull 64 bit processing. We will continue to see strong demand for Mac desktops at that point.
I would agree with you. One issue is that the older G5 are still very good machines. There is little incentive to upgrage given that there are still a number of applications that are not Intel native yet. The Mac Pro should see a bigger jump when Photoshop and Leopard are out in Spring.
I think Leopard alone will blow everyone away given the powerfull 64 bit processing. We will continue to see strong demand for Mac desktops at that point.

nies
Apr 27, 08:54 PM
Ok appleguy :p

psychspirit
Aug 5, 03:22 PM
I've had them all since Gen one excpet for the Video. Lost my Nano and gave other away. Now just have a Gen 3. Need a new one here soon when they make a car adaptor for the optical bus equipped BMWs. Gen 3 will go there and the new one will be for home, work and travel.
Is the smart play to wait a month or two?
eh..I heard the next generation of ipods will be released next year. Probably in November, just before Christmas. I didn't know they were going to release the video ipod or else I would've waited two months before getting my ipod photo!
Is the smart play to wait a month or two?
eh..I heard the next generation of ipods will be released next year. Probably in November, just before Christmas. I didn't know they were going to release the video ipod or else I would've waited two months before getting my ipod photo!

ZilogZ80
Apr 14, 04:56 AM
Would only make sense when combining Mac App Store and iOS App Store someway while keeping the syncing of the iOS devices in iTunes.
Or just do away with iTunes entirely and choose which available (i.e. purchased) apps you want to install directly in App Store on the device. Let any backups be cloud or Time Machine based.
Or just do away with iTunes entirely and choose which available (i.e. purchased) apps you want to install directly in App Store on the device. Let any backups be cloud or Time Machine based.

lordonuthin
Oct 28, 01:42 AM
Well, I'll hop on the bandwagon. My measly old MBP should be able to cope with it. I'll get my PS3 onto the game as well, just to see how much I can get out of it.
(far out you guys are well equipped)
Great to have you aboard! Every machine we can get helps. PS3's are great folding machines.
(far out you guys are well equipped)
Great to have you aboard! Every machine we can get helps. PS3's are great folding machines.

ShiftyPig
Apr 22, 05:18 PM
So wait, not to go off-topic, but let me get this straight: Josh quit Engadget to start another tech blog? FFS, like we don't have enough of those already.

tripjammer
May 3, 08:40 AM
I am so gonna get one! But which one?

spencers
Sep 14, 09:07 AM
hubba hubba. i guess? hahaha
3 month supply set me back $70 with copay. $370 with no insurance!! :eek: Boys are lucky.
I feel like such a scientist (well, I am) when I giggled at the structure. :D
Yet, I'm sad nobody else understood it. How is pharm going?
edit: Ordered a new faceplate for my worn out radio.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4438/204619.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/i/204619.jpg/)
3 month supply set me back $70 with copay. $370 with no insurance!! :eek: Boys are lucky.
I feel like such a scientist (well, I am) when I giggled at the structure. :D
Yet, I'm sad nobody else understood it. How is pharm going?
edit: Ordered a new faceplate for my worn out radio.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4438/204619.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/i/204619.jpg/)

uwetodd
Apr 26, 12:12 PM
Just ruined my freakin day. I was really hoping it would be an added benefit instead of a paid feature.
Well that definitely counts me out as a potential user. (Yes i'm cheap)
Entitlement? No offense as many feel the same way. I just don't understand how some can realistically expect such a product/service to be free for how new it is.
Well that definitely counts me out as a potential user. (Yes i'm cheap)
Entitlement? No offense as many feel the same way. I just don't understand how some can realistically expect such a product/service to be free for how new it is.

bankshot
Nov 3, 07:10 PM
Parallels takes way too long to launch, and the GUI sucks.
Mine pops up instantly. 2.0 GHz Macbook. What's wrong with the GUI? Is it just that it's not Cocoa, the holy grail, or is there something tangible that isn't good? I've found it easy to use and unobtrusive.
Plus, do you really think a Qt C++ wrapper around Carbon is faster than direct Cocoa calls? :rolleyes:
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it were. Many of the things that make Cocoa such a joy for programmers also slow it down at runtime. That's just a design decision that Apple made, and with faster computers always coming out, it becomes less of a drawback at runtime.
I just want a nice documented-based Cocoa app that behaves like a Mac app, with a fast virtualization at its core :)
Err, why should a virtual machine be document-based? That doesn't make any sense to me.
The whole thing that drew my attention to your original post was that comment about Cocoa. Why do you, as an end-user, care about that? Cocoa is great, but there seems to be a mentality here that anything else is inferior or a second-class citizen. I kind of understand why that mentality came to be - Cocoa came with OS X, Carbon is a bridge to the past in OS 9. Thus people automatically assumed that Cocoa = good and Carbon = bad. But Carbon is every bit as capable as Cocoa, and thus why an end-user would care one bit about either is beyond me.
Granted, Parallels is done with Qt, which looks a little bit "off" sitting next to a Carbon or Cocoa app, but does that really matter? It looks damn close, and frankly, looks mean nothing to me if the interface works intuitively. And that it does.
I'm not picking on you, just trying to understand your reasoning. ;)
Mine pops up instantly. 2.0 GHz Macbook. What's wrong with the GUI? Is it just that it's not Cocoa, the holy grail, or is there something tangible that isn't good? I've found it easy to use and unobtrusive.
Plus, do you really think a Qt C++ wrapper around Carbon is faster than direct Cocoa calls? :rolleyes:
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it were. Many of the things that make Cocoa such a joy for programmers also slow it down at runtime. That's just a design decision that Apple made, and with faster computers always coming out, it becomes less of a drawback at runtime.
I just want a nice documented-based Cocoa app that behaves like a Mac app, with a fast virtualization at its core :)
Err, why should a virtual machine be document-based? That doesn't make any sense to me.
The whole thing that drew my attention to your original post was that comment about Cocoa. Why do you, as an end-user, care about that? Cocoa is great, but there seems to be a mentality here that anything else is inferior or a second-class citizen. I kind of understand why that mentality came to be - Cocoa came with OS X, Carbon is a bridge to the past in OS 9. Thus people automatically assumed that Cocoa = good and Carbon = bad. But Carbon is every bit as capable as Cocoa, and thus why an end-user would care one bit about either is beyond me.
Granted, Parallels is done with Qt, which looks a little bit "off" sitting next to a Carbon or Cocoa app, but does that really matter? It looks damn close, and frankly, looks mean nothing to me if the interface works intuitively. And that it does.
I'm not picking on you, just trying to understand your reasoning. ;)
Heilage
May 2, 12:58 AM
From a moral standpoint, I can't be happy that he is dead. No one deserves to die. He should have spend the rest of his life in a prison cell, waking up every day to the realization that he failed.
However, I'll grant you that if someone was a ****** member of society, it's that douche.
EDIT: Also, HAH! The Democrats got him!
However, I'll grant you that if someone was a ****** member of society, it's that douche.
EDIT: Also, HAH! The Democrats got him!
steadysignal
May 3, 08:44 AM
nice new specs on these. miss my imac!
Skika
Apr 28, 03:54 PM
So you actually get MORE iPhone in the white model.
intradestings
intradestings
Stella
Apr 29, 03:09 PM
Shame there's no music available on amazon.ca.
iJohnHenry
Mar 1, 10:44 AM
Andy Kaufman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman#Tony_Clifton), as Tony Clifton, did it first, and far better.

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